Sunday, September 07, 2008
These Lying Times....What Moral Justification is There for Secular Government? (Part 1 )
These Lying Times....What Moral Justification is There for Secular Government?
(Part1)
By Carl G Loy
9/2/08
There is no such thing as a moral justification for secular government. Absurd Thinking? Only for those who are "of" the world. The fact that it exists does not give it a moral reason for its' existence. Merely because man has allowed a few others to rule over him does not make those others a moral choice and most certainly they are not ordained by God. There is nothing moral about secular government and nothing to morally justify it. God did not establish the governments of our day and time, nor did He provide a moral basis for their establishment. In most cases, man has elected to submit to those who rule, either because of fear to rebel, or because of the perception of benefits derived from such rule, or both. One of the benefits perceived by many is the security offered by the state. What would we do without government to protect us? Government is the secular answer to counteract faith in God. Government preempts dependence upon God and provides a replacement. Government is a self-serving humanistic religion of rules and regulations to enforce submission of the people and their payment of tributes. It is immoral, not moral. It doesn't make any difference what kind of government it claims to be, a monarchy, a democracy, a plutocracy, a dictatorship, or a so-called republic, any claim for it's moral right for existence is contrary to God's claim that He alone is King of His Chosen People. God established His Church and His Church is provided all the rules of self government, all the offices to be held, how such office holders are selected and ordained, and the purpose for their existence. The moral justification for a government of God, by God and for God is unquestionable and it is the basis for the determination that God's people should be separate from the secular world and it's immoral government. In America, we see that man determined for himself a government of we the people, of the people, by the people, for the people, a worldly immoral people, a people under submission and deceived about it.
Some will say that government is justified by the very nature of community, the need for administering to the common good of society as a moral purpose. When government claims it does something for the common good, it most often denies someone, or some group, some liberty. For the common good, the rights of an individual or a category of individuals are infringed. There is nothing moral about that. While there may be nothing immoral about the building and maintenance of roads for the common good, for instance, the graft and corruption usually involved in it, is most certainly immoral. Some amount of immoral behavior on the part of government and its' administrators is impossible to avoid simply because the choice to be so separate does not easily exist. We often need to use their roads and purchase their fuel to provide a livelihood for ourselves and our families. Complete separation is not only impractical, but virtually impossible. However, our own choices do determine just how separate we live, or how much we are a part of, and are supporting immoral government. Our Lord does not expect us to be hermits, nor to become a recluse simply as a means to become separate from the immorality of the world and it's immoral government. The Lord commands a spiritual separation from the world first and foremost. That spiritual separation allows God to be the focus of our lives and that Focus protects us from the demonic activity within the immoral world. It also protects us from the distractions of the world and it's immoral conduct. That Focus begets discernment. From that discernment we learn what is acceptable and not acceptable for our life while we live in the world. Moral discernment means we know shame and modesty, something now seemingly lost in society and government. Moral discernment means we recognize abominations for what they are and mean to God. Based on that discernment, knowing right from wrong, we make choices. Remaining silent and doing nothing, just trying to exist as a part of the world in which we live, is the most popular choice, but it is not following the Teaching of Jesus Christ and His Word tells us what He thinks of that. Didn't He Say He would rather we be hot or cold; that He spit us out? He had some harsh words to say for those who just go along to get along.
Many Christians will say that we are to obey government so long as it does not contradict or violate God's Laws. "Give unto Caesar...." has nothing to do with supporting immoral government. "Obeying the higher powers.....as being ordained by God," has noting to do with supporting immoral government. Please show me where you can find something that does not violate God's Laws that this, or any other government does. We are not talking about building and maintaining roads, which is taxed by their fuel, and you do have the choice to pay it by how much you use their roads. We are talking about such taxes as the property tax that forces property owners to support government schools which are antichrist schools indoctrinating children in a humanist religion while denying God's righteous beliefs for reason of separation of church and state. We are talking about the income tax being applied fraudulently to force every worker to pay from his labors the interest to the debt created by socialism and empire building. This is slavery, folks. We are talking about an evil money system based on debt using human 'resources' as collateral even into perpetuity. Folks, this is not only slavery, but it has enslaved future generations. Yes, the fiat money created by the evil cabal of bankers and government do belong to Caesar as does every citizen living within the system and using their money. The "higher powers' does not refer to George Bush, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, Churchill, Roosevelt, or Queen Elizabeth, or any similar others that might come to mind, and they were not, are not, "ordained" by God. Stop believing the misinformation and lies from the pulpit. All governments are evil and are not of God. By not separating from this physical world, as much as possible, we are allowing ourselves to be subjected to the ways of the world and at worse become partakers of her sins. One does not have to partake of the sins made so obvious by the Pulpit, such as adultery and over-indulging in alcohol, etc., to be partaking of the sins of the world. Simply being a party to the theft of what belongs to others and benefiting from it, even for the common good as in socialism, is partaking of her sins. You can attend church every Sunday or Sabbath, do good deeds, and read your Bible, but that will not absolve you from having partaken of the sins of the world if you have benefited from her socialism, the legal stealing from one to benefit another, not to mention all the skimming off the top that government does to support itself. All government does is to make legal what it makes illegal for the Mafia. Be it drugs, loan sharking, or coercion and bribery, government gets a pass. Guess what? The Mafia was an Italian group of thugs taken into a lodge of Freemasonry. F.B.I. Director, 32nd Degree Freemason, J. Edgar Hoover, did not want the French Freemasonry Communists to take over the Unions so he made a deal with the Freemason Mafia to allow them to infiltrate the unions to counteract the opposing Freemason Communist takeover of the unions. It was also he who said that Americans were faced with a conspiracy of such magnitude that they wouldn't believe it. The Kennedy's gave the Mafia too much attention and they didn't last long as Hoover and Freemason Earl Warren and Freemason Gerald Ford, and the C.I.A. became party to the covered-up evidence of a conspiracy too enormous and evil for American's to fathom. Example after example of Freemasonry involvement in assassinations here and abroad are not difficult to trace and expose. That's the kind of government we have, Folks. What are you doing to try to keep from supporting it?
Secular government is evil and immoral and there is no moral justification for its' existence. Righteousness does not exist in immoral government. However we are stuck with what we have, but only so long as we cannot see that it is not our government at all. It is Satan's government and our faith should prelude our participation in it. It is not easy to live as separately as possible from the 'system.' God didn't promise easy. In fact, He has promised the Believer and Follower hardship, trials and tribulations, and persecution. For those who follow Him, he has also promised to both help carry their burdens here on earth and everlasting life in His Kingdom. As is said, paraphrasing, 'in the valley of the shadow of death, there is no evil to fear for He is with you.' Still the average Christian both worships and fears government more than they worship and fear God. What's more, they don't even recognize what they are doing.
The incorporated church is not His Church. It is persecution proof not because it is protected by God, but because it is a state entity. When you bow to the state, the state will generally leave you alone. Today's church bows to government. There is no separation by the church from the state, but rather an agreement between them making the church subservient to the state. The result is a compromised church of the state and of the world. There is simply no way to morally justify the incorporation of a church with an immoral government.
Government schools are morally corrupt with no moral justification for their existence. Humanist secular schools provide a humanist secular indoctrination, yet most Christians have no qualms about sending their children to them. Can anyone morally justify doing that? One lady emailed me a few years ago in response to my urging Christians to home school, that she wanted me to know that her children were setting the example as good Christians in their school and that they were the salt and the light that Jesus intends us to be in this world. A carpenter that worked for me near that same time admitted the failure of schools and the anti-god nature of them, but he assured me that his twelve year old son had been taught right and attended church every Sunday and was well equipped to remain unaffected by what was taught in school that was not according to the Bible. Naive and undiscerning seems to be a common trait among Christian parents today. Deep in their hearts, many know the truth, but they don't want to deal with the sacrifices necessary to separate their children from these immoral antichrist indoctrination centers. I applaud those who do for theirs is not an easy road. For those who do so because they love God and love their children and do take seriously the responsibility for the education of their children as God Instructs, their rewards will be much both here on earth and in Heaven. What a great satisfaction for those parents to know their children are separated from evil influences and educated in the Ways of the Lord. What a great satisfaction to know they are following God's Will in that way, for it was Jesus who said, "Suffer not the little children to come unto me." Children can't find Jesus in government schools. Sometimes it's a fake Jesus they find in church. Separation from the world not only includes its' government and its' schools, but sometimes it includes the church, particularly the government sanctioned church.
Freedom of religion was necessary for evil and false religions to grow. The myth of separation of church and state was necessary to remove God from the public forum, particularly from schools. Since a vacuum cannot exist, the religion of humanism replaced God in schools, which in effect became a government approved and government taught religion, regardless of any claims to the contrary. Everyone believes in something even if they are denying Jesus Christ or claiming that they are atheists. Christian teachers in government schools are using humanist textbooks and teaching many falsehoods in the process, not the least of which is the programming little minds to accept government authority over that of their parents. What is amazing is that these teachers are teaching what they are told to teach with no discernment, not having any understanding of what they are actually doing in advancing a one world government where truth is whatever the government says it is.
'In the world, but not of the world,' comes directly from Jesus Christ. So why are most Christians "of" the world? Why are most churches "of" the world? Why are Christian children sent to schools "of" the world?
What is the moral justification for being "of" the world in direct contradiction to the admonition of Jesus Christ, not to be "of" the world? Why are Christians supporting a secular humanist antichrist government "of" the world, when there is absolutely no moral justification to do so?
(Part1)
By Carl G Loy
9/2/08
There is no such thing as a moral justification for secular government. Absurd Thinking? Only for those who are "of" the world. The fact that it exists does not give it a moral reason for its' existence. Merely because man has allowed a few others to rule over him does not make those others a moral choice and most certainly they are not ordained by God. There is nothing moral about secular government and nothing to morally justify it. God did not establish the governments of our day and time, nor did He provide a moral basis for their establishment. In most cases, man has elected to submit to those who rule, either because of fear to rebel, or because of the perception of benefits derived from such rule, or both. One of the benefits perceived by many is the security offered by the state. What would we do without government to protect us? Government is the secular answer to counteract faith in God. Government preempts dependence upon God and provides a replacement. Government is a self-serving humanistic religion of rules and regulations to enforce submission of the people and their payment of tributes. It is immoral, not moral. It doesn't make any difference what kind of government it claims to be, a monarchy, a democracy, a plutocracy, a dictatorship, or a so-called republic, any claim for it's moral right for existence is contrary to God's claim that He alone is King of His Chosen People. God established His Church and His Church is provided all the rules of self government, all the offices to be held, how such office holders are selected and ordained, and the purpose for their existence. The moral justification for a government of God, by God and for God is unquestionable and it is the basis for the determination that God's people should be separate from the secular world and it's immoral government. In America, we see that man determined for himself a government of we the people, of the people, by the people, for the people, a worldly immoral people, a people under submission and deceived about it.
Some will say that government is justified by the very nature of community, the need for administering to the common good of society as a moral purpose. When government claims it does something for the common good, it most often denies someone, or some group, some liberty. For the common good, the rights of an individual or a category of individuals are infringed. There is nothing moral about that. While there may be nothing immoral about the building and maintenance of roads for the common good, for instance, the graft and corruption usually involved in it, is most certainly immoral. Some amount of immoral behavior on the part of government and its' administrators is impossible to avoid simply because the choice to be so separate does not easily exist. We often need to use their roads and purchase their fuel to provide a livelihood for ourselves and our families. Complete separation is not only impractical, but virtually impossible. However, our own choices do determine just how separate we live, or how much we are a part of, and are supporting immoral government. Our Lord does not expect us to be hermits, nor to become a recluse simply as a means to become separate from the immorality of the world and it's immoral government. The Lord commands a spiritual separation from the world first and foremost. That spiritual separation allows God to be the focus of our lives and that Focus protects us from the demonic activity within the immoral world. It also protects us from the distractions of the world and it's immoral conduct. That Focus begets discernment. From that discernment we learn what is acceptable and not acceptable for our life while we live in the world. Moral discernment means we know shame and modesty, something now seemingly lost in society and government. Moral discernment means we recognize abominations for what they are and mean to God. Based on that discernment, knowing right from wrong, we make choices. Remaining silent and doing nothing, just trying to exist as a part of the world in which we live, is the most popular choice, but it is not following the Teaching of Jesus Christ and His Word tells us what He thinks of that. Didn't He Say He would rather we be hot or cold; that He spit us out? He had some harsh words to say for those who just go along to get along.
Many Christians will say that we are to obey government so long as it does not contradict or violate God's Laws. "Give unto Caesar...." has nothing to do with supporting immoral government. "Obeying the higher powers.....as being ordained by God," has noting to do with supporting immoral government. Please show me where you can find something that does not violate God's Laws that this, or any other government does. We are not talking about building and maintaining roads, which is taxed by their fuel, and you do have the choice to pay it by how much you use their roads. We are talking about such taxes as the property tax that forces property owners to support government schools which are antichrist schools indoctrinating children in a humanist religion while denying God's righteous beliefs for reason of separation of church and state. We are talking about the income tax being applied fraudulently to force every worker to pay from his labors the interest to the debt created by socialism and empire building. This is slavery, folks. We are talking about an evil money system based on debt using human 'resources' as collateral even into perpetuity. Folks, this is not only slavery, but it has enslaved future generations. Yes, the fiat money created by the evil cabal of bankers and government do belong to Caesar as does every citizen living within the system and using their money. The "higher powers' does not refer to George Bush, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, Churchill, Roosevelt, or Queen Elizabeth, or any similar others that might come to mind, and they were not, are not, "ordained" by God. Stop believing the misinformation and lies from the pulpit. All governments are evil and are not of God. By not separating from this physical world, as much as possible, we are allowing ourselves to be subjected to the ways of the world and at worse become partakers of her sins. One does not have to partake of the sins made so obvious by the Pulpit, such as adultery and over-indulging in alcohol, etc., to be partaking of the sins of the world. Simply being a party to the theft of what belongs to others and benefiting from it, even for the common good as in socialism, is partaking of her sins. You can attend church every Sunday or Sabbath, do good deeds, and read your Bible, but that will not absolve you from having partaken of the sins of the world if you have benefited from her socialism, the legal stealing from one to benefit another, not to mention all the skimming off the top that government does to support itself. All government does is to make legal what it makes illegal for the Mafia. Be it drugs, loan sharking, or coercion and bribery, government gets a pass. Guess what? The Mafia was an Italian group of thugs taken into a lodge of Freemasonry. F.B.I. Director, 32nd Degree Freemason, J. Edgar Hoover, did not want the French Freemasonry Communists to take over the Unions so he made a deal with the Freemason Mafia to allow them to infiltrate the unions to counteract the opposing Freemason Communist takeover of the unions. It was also he who said that Americans were faced with a conspiracy of such magnitude that they wouldn't believe it. The Kennedy's gave the Mafia too much attention and they didn't last long as Hoover and Freemason Earl Warren and Freemason Gerald Ford, and the C.I.A. became party to the covered-up evidence of a conspiracy too enormous and evil for American's to fathom. Example after example of Freemasonry involvement in assassinations here and abroad are not difficult to trace and expose. That's the kind of government we have, Folks. What are you doing to try to keep from supporting it?
Secular government is evil and immoral and there is no moral justification for its' existence. Righteousness does not exist in immoral government. However we are stuck with what we have, but only so long as we cannot see that it is not our government at all. It is Satan's government and our faith should prelude our participation in it. It is not easy to live as separately as possible from the 'system.' God didn't promise easy. In fact, He has promised the Believer and Follower hardship, trials and tribulations, and persecution. For those who follow Him, he has also promised to both help carry their burdens here on earth and everlasting life in His Kingdom. As is said, paraphrasing, 'in the valley of the shadow of death, there is no evil to fear for He is with you.' Still the average Christian both worships and fears government more than they worship and fear God. What's more, they don't even recognize what they are doing.
The incorporated church is not His Church. It is persecution proof not because it is protected by God, but because it is a state entity. When you bow to the state, the state will generally leave you alone. Today's church bows to government. There is no separation by the church from the state, but rather an agreement between them making the church subservient to the state. The result is a compromised church of the state and of the world. There is simply no way to morally justify the incorporation of a church with an immoral government.
Government schools are morally corrupt with no moral justification for their existence. Humanist secular schools provide a humanist secular indoctrination, yet most Christians have no qualms about sending their children to them. Can anyone morally justify doing that? One lady emailed me a few years ago in response to my urging Christians to home school, that she wanted me to know that her children were setting the example as good Christians in their school and that they were the salt and the light that Jesus intends us to be in this world. A carpenter that worked for me near that same time admitted the failure of schools and the anti-god nature of them, but he assured me that his twelve year old son had been taught right and attended church every Sunday and was well equipped to remain unaffected by what was taught in school that was not according to the Bible. Naive and undiscerning seems to be a common trait among Christian parents today. Deep in their hearts, many know the truth, but they don't want to deal with the sacrifices necessary to separate their children from these immoral antichrist indoctrination centers. I applaud those who do for theirs is not an easy road. For those who do so because they love God and love their children and do take seriously the responsibility for the education of their children as God Instructs, their rewards will be much both here on earth and in Heaven. What a great satisfaction for those parents to know their children are separated from evil influences and educated in the Ways of the Lord. What a great satisfaction to know they are following God's Will in that way, for it was Jesus who said, "Suffer not the little children to come unto me." Children can't find Jesus in government schools. Sometimes it's a fake Jesus they find in church. Separation from the world not only includes its' government and its' schools, but sometimes it includes the church, particularly the government sanctioned church.
Freedom of religion was necessary for evil and false religions to grow. The myth of separation of church and state was necessary to remove God from the public forum, particularly from schools. Since a vacuum cannot exist, the religion of humanism replaced God in schools, which in effect became a government approved and government taught religion, regardless of any claims to the contrary. Everyone believes in something even if they are denying Jesus Christ or claiming that they are atheists. Christian teachers in government schools are using humanist textbooks and teaching many falsehoods in the process, not the least of which is the programming little minds to accept government authority over that of their parents. What is amazing is that these teachers are teaching what they are told to teach with no discernment, not having any understanding of what they are actually doing in advancing a one world government where truth is whatever the government says it is.
'In the world, but not of the world,' comes directly from Jesus Christ. So why are most Christians "of" the world? Why are most churches "of" the world? Why are Christian children sent to schools "of" the world?
What is the moral justification for being "of" the world in direct contradiction to the admonition of Jesus Christ, not to be "of" the world? Why are Christians supporting a secular humanist antichrist government "of" the world, when there is absolutely no moral justification to do so?
